I had the impression that Cart would be controlling the pictures
we saw?! It was better than typical ESPN/ABC but
could be better! Not enough in-car and still too much
talking/blathering!!
I also thought that having ONLY 2 laps after the last FC yellow
was absurd, I would think there should be a minimum of
say 5 laps on road, 10 or so on oval to run before checkered
would allow MUCH more chance for interesting racing!
Hate those damn FC yellows!!
Come on Cart, IRL is making in-roads, they may win!!!!
–
< Remember September 11, 2001 >
< May all who are responsible or approve burn in an infinite hell !! >
Then why not just make the races 10 laps????
"Rabid Raccoon" <meM…@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> I also thought that having ONLY 2 laps after the last FC yellow
> was absurd, I would think there should be a minimum of
> say 5 laps on road, 10 or so on oval to run before checkered
> would allow MUCH more chance for interesting racing!
> Hate those damn FC yellows!!
> Come on Cart, IRL is making in-roads, they may win!!!!
> —
> < Remember September 11, 2001 >
> < May all who are responsible or approve burn in an infinite hell !! >
Why would CART be controlling the pictures? CART is controlling the race.
And I thought there was too much in car.
"Rabid Raccoon" <meM…@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> I had the impression that Cart would be controlling the pictures
> we saw?! It was better than typical ESPN/ABC but
> could be better! Not enough in-car and still too much
> talking/blathering!!
"Mark McCauley" <sm…@hawkpci.net> wrote in message
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> Why would CART be controlling the pictures? CART is controlling the race.
> And I thought there was too much in car.
Too much in-car? You can never have too much in-car. I can do without the
shifter cam, but it was cool to see MA legs get bounced around. I didnt
realize they had that much room to fly around, now I understand the knee
pads DC wears..
Yes you can have too much in-car. Too often during the race yesterday, we
were missing on-track action while they were in-car.
"Michael" <SteveHar…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Too much in-car? You can never have too much in-car. I can do without the
> shifter cam, but it was cool to see MA legs get bounced around. I didnt
> realize they had that much room to fly around, now I understand the knee
> pads DC wears..
"Mark McCauley" <sm…@hawkpci.net> wrote in message
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> Yes you can have too much in-car. Too often during the race yesterday, we
> were missing on-track action while they were in-car.
While I agree, at least they had the pip of the forward facing camera at the
same time.
Beaner
Yes, sometimes they did.
What was pretty neat for us at one point – I believe it was when Andretti
and da Matta were together, Speed had an in-car from one of them and outside
view, and the international feed that we had in our own PIP (from satellite)
had the in-car from the other car.
Similar situations with other cars happened during the race.
"Ron Bean" <rwb…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> While I agree, at least they had the pip of the forward facing camera at
the
> same time.
> Beaner
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> Why would CART be controlling the pictures? CART is controlling the race.
> And I thought there was too much in car.
I don’t think there was too much in-car, it was the right amount, just
poorly timed. I’ve noticed Speed has a problem with this, though. In their
coverage of World Challenge for example, they will go to in-car cameras
when passing is happening. You can’t see the move that way, you can only
whether or not a car appears in front. If they used that stuff for re-plays
it would be great, but they way they use it really detracts from the
broadcast, rather than enhance it.
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 00:06:06 -0500, "Rabid Raccoon"
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>I had the impression that Cart would be controlling the pictures
>we saw?! It was better than typical ESPN/ABC but
>could be better! Not enough in-car and still too much
>talking/blathering!!
Funny how different people see thibgs differently. I thought that
there was too much in car. Go figure.
> What was pretty neat for us at one point – I believe it was when Andretti
> and da Matta were together, Speed had an in-car from one of them and
outside
> view, and the international feed that we had in our own PIP (from
satellite)
> had the in-car from the other car.
You guys area all missing the fact that the race was brodcast and directed
by Aztecha TV in Mexico, so the feed that SPEED got was the feed they had to
live with,….
I thought overall it was awesome,.. Heads above anything ABC ever did,….
Maybe there was a bit to much in car stuff, that depends on whom you’re
talking to. To much shifter stuff?… it was cool too, but they cic sdrew up
the switching a couple of times. I remember seeing Fernandez’ in car
shifter, and then a PIP on, well, his in car shifter. Then suddenly, there
was his car live on the track. minor mistakes,… Overall i gave the
brodcast an ‘A’
No, we’re not missing any facts.
Speed had some control over which in-car shots they selected. I was watching
both the Speed Channel and the international feed over my big dish. They
were different at times.
"¥Ô Jason_Hoehn Ô¥" <jasonho…@shaw.nospam.uhuhwhatever> wrote in message
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> You guys area all missing the fact that the race was brodcast and directed
> by Aztecha TV in Mexico, so the feed that SPEED got was the feed they had
to
> live with,….
> I thought overall it was awesome,.. Heads above anything ABC ever did,….
> Maybe there was a bit to much in car stuff, that depends on whom you’re
> talking to. To much shifter stuff?… it was cool too, but they cic sdrew
up
> the switching a couple of times. I remember seeing Fernandez’ in car
> shifter, and then a PIP on, well, his in car shifter. Then suddenly, there
> was his car live on the track. minor mistakes,… Overall i gave the
> brodcast an ‘A’
"Mark McCauley" <s-mark1…@charter.net> wrote in message
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> No, we’re not missing any facts.
> Speed had some control over which in-car shots they selected. I was
watching
> both the Speed Channel and the international feed over my big dish. They
> were different at times.
Here’s one for you Mark. Was the international feed showing an in-car at
the same time as SC?
Beaner
Yes, sometimes they were.
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> Here’s one for you Mark. Was the international feed showing an in-car at
> the same time as SC?
> Beaner
"Mark McCauley" <s-mark1…@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, sometimes they were.
Well there goes my theory. Thanks.
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> > Yes, sometimes they were.
> Well there goes my theory. Thanks.
Not always, but possibly so! Maybe the other?
"Rabid Raccoon" <meM…@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Not always, but possibly so! Maybe the other?
Nah, just thinking that if there were in-car shots on both the international
and SC feeds then SC wouldn’t have much to choose from feed wise.
Beaner
Obviously Speed has some control over what they shots they broadcast,
otherwise they couldn’t insert their reporters. I believe they have the same
control over in-car cameras.
Unfortunately, I can’t record my TV screen with the PIP of the international
feed. (I have tried.). Otherwise I would make some stills and post them.
When we watch the race I have the PIP on-screen. When I want to change which
I want to watch – Speed or feed, for example, when a commercial comes on, I
just swap them. Sometimes, depending on which satellite the feed is on, the
picture is very poor if it is windy and causes the dish to move. If it is,
we only swap during a commercial. Other times the feed may be perfect.
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> "Rabid Raccoon" <meM…@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> > Not always, but possibly so! Maybe the other?
> Nah, just thinking that if there were in-car shots on both the
international
> and SC feeds then SC wouldn’t have much to choose from feed wise.
> Beaner
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On a completely unrelated note, did anyone notice the ads at all? I was
impressed with the fact that there were normal ads now. Not just Honda and
Fed Ex as last year.
Beaner
"Ron Bean" <rwb…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Rabid Raccoon" <meM…@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On a completely unrelated note, did anyone notice the ads at all? I was
> impressed with the fact that there were normal ads now. Not just Honda
and
> Fed Ex as last year.
Actually I made a post about them in another thread. This is the list of
different advertisers that I saw on my broadcast:
Toyota
FedEx
Bridgestone
Brinks Home Security
Staples (office supply store chain, competitor to Rahal’s Office Depot
sponsorship)
Goodyear (they don’t participate in open-wheel anymore, but it’s still a
good advertising investment)
Hooters (who doesn’t love Hooters?)
Old Spice "Cool Contact Towels" (some sort of new disposable moist towelette
for men)
Lexus
Target
Speed Stick (more men’s hygiene products)
Infinity (the car, not the stereo…hey, don’t they build IRL engines?)
America Online
GlaxoSmithKline (pharmaceuticals, specifically Flonase)
Shell
Mazda (who decided to re-badge Cosworth engines for 2003 in CART…must be
good advertising)
Yamaha (hey, don’t they sponsor IRL races?)
Prudential Financial Services
Honda
American Plastics Council
Planters Nuts
Playstation 2 (hey, didn’t they sponsor an IRL team last year?)
Nicoderm CQ (smoking cessation aid for all those former Marlboro Team Penske
fans)
Subaru
BMW
and of course numerous Speedvision/CART/WRC/F1/NASCAR/Superbike/etc promos.
Not a local yokel amongst them (unlike the Miami IRL race).
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> Actually I made a post about them in another thread. This is the list of
> different advertisers that I saw on my broadcast:
> Toyota
> FedEx
> Bridgestone
> Brinks Home Security
> Staples (office supply store chain, competitor to Rahal’s Office Depot
> sponsorship)
> Goodyear (they don’t participate in open-wheel anymore, but it’s still a
> good advertising investment)
> Hooters (who doesn’t love Hooters?)
> Old Spice "Cool Contact Towels" (some sort of new disposable moist
towelette
> for men)
> Lexus
> Target
> Speed Stick (more men’s hygiene products)
> Infinity (the car, not the stereo…hey, don’t they build IRL engines?)
> America Online
> GlaxoSmithKline (pharmaceuticals, specifically Flonase)
> Shell
> Mazda (who decided to re-badge Cosworth engines for 2003 in CART…must be
> good advertising)
> Yamaha (hey, don’t they sponsor IRL races?)
> Prudential Financial Services
> Honda
> American Plastics Council
> Planters Nuts
> Playstation 2 (hey, didn’t they sponsor an IRL team last year?)
> Nicoderm CQ (smoking cessation aid for all those former Marlboro Team
Penske
> fans)
> Subaru
> BMW
> and of course numerous Speedvision/CART/WRC/F1/NASCAR/Superbike/etc
promos.
> Not a local yokel amongst them (unlike the Miami IRL race).
Damn, you’re doing way too much homework. :)
With a list like that it would appear someone’s been working overtime. Just
one thought though, where are the Simple Green ads?
Beaner
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> "ocbwilg" <ocbw…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Actually I made a post about them in another thread. This is the list
of
> > different advertisers that I saw on my broadcast:
> > Toyota
> > FedEx
> > Bridgestone
> > Brinks Home Security
> > Staples (office supply store chain, competitor to Rahal’s Office Depot
> > sponsorship)
> > Goodyear (they don’t participate in open-wheel anymore, but it’s still a
> > good advertising investment)
> > Hooters (who doesn’t love Hooters?)
> > Old Spice "Cool Contact Towels" (some sort of new disposable moist
> towelette
> > for men)
> > Lexus
> > Target
> > Speed Stick (more men’s hygiene products)
> > Infinity (the car, not the stereo…hey, don’t they build IRL engines?)
> > America Online
> > GlaxoSmithKline (pharmaceuticals, specifically Flonase)
> > Shell
> > Mazda (who decided to re-badge Cosworth engines for 2003 in CART…must
be
> > good advertising)
> > Yamaha (hey, don’t they sponsor IRL races?)
> > Prudential Financial Services
> > Honda
> > American Plastics Council
> > Planters Nuts
> > Playstation 2 (hey, didn’t they sponsor an IRL team last year?)
> > Nicoderm CQ (smoking cessation aid for all those former Marlboro Team
> Penske
> > fans)
> > Subaru
> > BMW
> > and of course numerous Speedvision/CART/WRC/F1/NASCAR/Superbike/etc
> promos.
> > Not a local yokel amongst them (unlike the Miami IRL race).
> Damn, you’re doing way too much homework. :)
> With a list like that it would appear someone’s been working overtime.
Just
> one thought though, where are the Simple Green ads?
Dunno. I don’t recall seeing any, but I was writing them down as they were
coming up so I got everything that I saw. I did take a "nature break"
during a couple of commercials, so I may have missed one.
"ocbwilg" <ocbw…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Dunno. I don’t recall seeing any, but I was writing them down as they
were
> coming up so I got everything that I saw. I did take a "nature break"
> during a couple of commercials, so I may have missed one.
That’s just the thing, they’re weren’t any. Gotta wonder what that is.
Beaner